Television

Isis King continues to break ground ‘With Love’

The trans actress and model hopes to broaden the conversation about pronouns and representation

When she was still living in a homeless shelter in 2008, Isis King learned about an upcoming photo shoot for America’s Next Top Model. Ever since she was a child in Annapolis, Maryland, she had wanted to model, if not act. But as much as King wanted to be on the show, she didn’t think she stood a chance — not only because of the difficulty of her life situation at the time, but because she was transgender, and a transgender woman had never explicitly appeared on the show before. Still, she auditioned, and soon Tyra Banks was asking her to be on the next cycle of the show.

“When I first saw the show, I was pre-transition,” King told me over the phone recently, reflecting on the early days of her career. “I’m only 5-foot-7 and a half … So, on the height side, I never thought I would be on the show, or could be a model. On the gender side,” she continued, “I didn’t think I would have the courage to transition watching Top Model.” She paused. “Fast-forward, I’m on the show at 5-foot-7 and transitioned … That broke the glass ceiling of possibilities for my life.”

Now, in 2021, at 36, King has once again done something she once imagined she would never be able to: star in a major new show as an explicitly transgender character. On Friday, viewers will be introduced to King as she plays a lead role in Amazon Prime Video’s new romcom, With Love, as the character of Sol Perez, a nonbinary oncologist. Written and produced by Gloria Calderon Kellett, who was also behind the Latino sitcom One Day at a Time, the show follows siblings Lily (Emeraude Toubia) and Jorge Diaz (Mark Indelicato), who are on overlapping quests to find love. King plays their transgender femme cousin, who is similarly on a quest to open their own heart to love, in this case with a dashing doctor who Sol works with.

It’s a big change from her Top Model days. When King was selected to be a contestant on America’s Next Top Model, she immediately became one of the most visible transgender people in America, and a transgender person of color, to boot. King was deluged both with declarations of how brave and impactful her role was and with indignant confusion, if not outright anti-transgender bias, from people who objected to anyone not cisgender playing so prominent a part in the mainstream media.

Despite the vitriol, the experience “allowed me to dream bigger,” King said, setting her on a path to become a queer celebrity icon. But she found, too, that she was suddenly in other people’s dreams, including young transgender people who were telling her that, by appearing with such self-assurance on Top Model, she had helped them believe that they, too, could transition. Some even shared with her that she had helped save their lives through her brave forthrightness to be herself under the media’s harsh glare. The show hadn’t only allowed her to dream bigger, it had allowed other queer folks to do the same because she had offered that then-rarest — and still too rare — of things: representation.

It was a role King had never imagined, and, from there, she knew she wanted to move from modeling to acting, while never hiding that she was transgender. King has since appeared in The L Word: Generation Q, Equal, Good Trouble, Shameless, and other shows. She attracted particular attention for her role in When They See Us (2019), Ava DuVernay’s crime drama about the Central Park Five, in which King portrayed Marci Wise, the transgender sister of one of the falsely accused Black men, Korey Wise.

Isis King stars in the new romcom, With Love, as the character of Sol Perez, a nonbinary oncologist.

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Now, in With Love, King gets to act out queer romance on screen as Sol and their love interest, Miles (Todd Grinnell), attempt to figure out not only the contours of their own relationship, but how Miles’ son will fit into it. It’s a complicated struggle that many viewers will likely be able to sympathize with.

To be sure, navigating a relationship with a partner who has a child is ground that many other shows have trod. What will make this aspect of With Love stand out, though, is that Sol is nonbinary and femme, and they will likely have to juggle what it means to use “they/them” pronouns while being mistaken for a cisgender mother due to Sol’s gender presentation, along with all the other complexities of this kind of relationship.

Although With Love features a number of other main characters in queer relationships, it feels revolutionary in many ways for the show to depict a nonbinary figure in love. While binary transgender characters — those who identify simply as men or women, despite being assigned a different gender at birth — are still relatively rare in popular TV shows and films, nonbinary characters — whose identity does not sit neatly on the gender binary — are rarer still. (One such character, Syd, appeared in Calderon Kellett’s One Day at a Time. Syd used they/them pronouns while presenting in a somewhat conventionally feminine style and dated a cisgender girl.)

Like Sol, King also uses “they/them” pronouns on occasion, and the chance to play a femme nonbinary figure excited King tremendously. She hopes that playing a character who uses they/them pronouns will help viewers with “learning new pronouns.” Using “they/them” pronouns on screen creates a good “educational moment,” she notes, because “it’s not a pronoun you hear often on TV” today. She also thinks it’s important to depict a nonbinary person who is able to both desire and be desired.

King wants viewers and critics alike to see her not simply — or even primarily — as a transgender figure in the media, but as an ever-more-accomplished actress. So often, queer — perhaps most of all transgender — figures in the media become defined in critical coverage primarily by their identities, and their lives and work become the things critics seem the least interested in exploring. And often, what coverage queer actors do get is primarily in queer publications, King noted, rather than on broader-interest mainstream late-night shows or in large magazines. “It shouldn’t just be LGBTQ publications picking up our work,” she told me. “Just because we’re queer doesn’t mean we should be limited to those spaces … Are we getting the [mainstream] coverage we deserve?” she continued. “No.”

Still, King notices a cultural shift happening. She finds strength in a younger generation who seems, in her words, “so powerful” in its ability to “shake things up and really make you question things” in terms of identity, particularly when it comes to the nuances of gender. She highlighted Indya Moore, one of the stars of Pose and who identifies as nonbinary, as one of the young celebrities who has inspired her own increasing comfort with using both she/her and they/them pronouns, and with portraying characters like Sol. As a transgender person of color in a deeply polarized America, this generational openness matters to her, because she notes that she sometimes feels like she’s “living in a twilight zone” where it is still common for conservative politicians to trot out anti-transgender tropes to attract voters.

“These issues were here before us and they’ll be here after us,” she said of dealing with anti-transgender rhetoric, and, while she advocates allowing ourselves space to isolate and practice self-care in stressful moments, she reflected, too, about the value of being visible. She wants to inspire others and help create more love in the world. And she hopes to continue the conversation about gender and identity so that, one day, a nonbinary oncologist character on a major new show will be ordinary rather than extraordinary.

Gabrielle Bellot is a Staff Writer for Literary Hub and a Contributing Editor at Catapult. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Cut, The Paris Review Daily, and many other places.

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Steph Curry

Stephen Curry celebrated 2,974 with special edition shoes, hats — and wine

Curry and his brand partners had been planning for this moment since the start of the season

When Stephen Curry walked into the elongated visitors tunnel at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday evening, the stage was set for a historic game.

Just two 3-pointers away from breaking Ray Allen’s NBA record of 2,973 makes, the Golden State Warriors star was wearing a celebratory Curry Brand hoodie and hat for the occasion, both featuring his “Splash” logo and the number 2,974 in blue and gold.

“It was a special atmosphere,” Curry said after the record-breaking game. “I knew the Garden would deliver, in terms of how iconic this place is.”

With the record in sight at the start of the season, Curry and his brand partners had been planning for this moment.

That process began with a commemorative sneaker, treated with an elevated royal blue atop his Curry 9 Flow model, and using gold marble detailing and accents. The heel tab featured a subtle “2974” hit, and the tongue logo highlighted the four words the sharpshooter shared with Curry Brand designers to describe what went into his achievement.

“Longevity. Accuracy. Volume. Range.”

A detailed view of the basketball shoes of Stephen Curry before he played against the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden on Dec. 14 in New York City.

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Brands across the athletic industry are dealing with factory delays and a sliding launch calendar due to coronavirus pandemic-related manufacturer shutdowns in Asia, and Curry Brand is no exception. The special edition sneakers are slated to be released in 2022. Only 2,974 pairs are expected to be available.

After taking photos with Allen and Reggie Miller after the final buzzer on the court, Curry went back to the visitors locker room to take in the moment with his teammates. Black and yellow commemorative Curry Brand hats were distributed to the Warriors players, with Curry flipping on his own.

“2,974 & Counting” was embroidered across the front.

A design collaboration with Bay Area-born designer Dustin O. Canalin’s brand Trophy Hunting, the hats included a yellow chenille patch along the left side, declaring Curry the “All Time 3-Point Record Holder.”

Special edition gear and sneakers have become an expected touch for records, championships and All-Star Games in the past decade. It’s a long way from the simple white and green special edition Air Jordan 13 Retros that Allen laced up in 2011 for his record-setting night.

Domaine Curry, the Napa Valley winery launched in 2018 by Stephen Curry’s wife Ayesha and sister Sydel, created a custom 1.5 liter magnum bottle and wooden wine holder using the same royal and marble artwork from his sneakers.

Reading “All-Time 3 Pt Record Holder” and “2974” across the main label, the back of the bottle features a passage written by Curry last spring in anticipation of the record that will also be included on a commemorative card with the “2974” Curry 9 Flows:

“LONGEVITY AND ACCURACY

I never wanted to put myself up there with Ray and Reggie before it was time, because I appreciate and understand how hard it is to shoot the ball like that.

Year after year after year.

But it’s not about volume to me.

It’s about the standard I wanted to set on mastering both attempts and percentage.

Rolling with Ray and Reg sounds amazing now though.”

During and after the game, Curry wanted to incorporate the two who “set the bar.”

As he sat on the Garden hardwood, he was surrounded by Allen’s Celtics No. 20 jersey and Miller’s pinstriped No. 31 Pacers uni, with a royal Warriors road jersey featuring No. 2974 in place of his longtime No. 30.

“I’ve looked up to those two guys my entire childhood,” he said. “Us three can really say we’re the only ones that know what it’s like to shoot at that level. I hope they feel an appreciation for the inspiration that they gave me to think that I could do it myself.”

Whether it was being overwhelmed with emotion as the game was halted to recognize the moment just five minutes into the first quarter, handing the game ball to his father Dell along the baseline right after, or the embrace and conversation shared with Allen and Miller after the final buzzer, the night became an instant highlight of Curry’s 33 years.

“It definitely exceeded it,” he said, with a smile. “This is something I’ve been dreaming about.” 

To seal the evening off, Curry took back the game ball from his father after dinner, and pulled out a Sharpie.

“12/14/21 @ MSG. 2974 AND COUNTING,” he began to write.

On the panel below – without pausing for a second – he added in all caps:

“GREATEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME!” 

His swooping shorthand autograph followed, and he handed the ball back to his father.

“I never wanted to call myself the greatest shooter until I got this record,” he said. “I’m comfortable saying that now.”

Nick DePaula is a footwear industry and lifestyle writer at The Undefeated. The Sacramento native has been based in Portland, OR, for the last decade, a main hub of sneaker company HQs. He’ll often argue that ’How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days’ is actually an underrated movie — largely because it’s the only time his Sacramento Kings have made the NBA Finals.

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Puma

Puma releases first women’s basketball collection

Veteran designer June Ambrose celebrates WNBA players with ‘ferocious’ colors

When costume designer and stylist June Ambrose was named the first Puma Basketball women’s creative director just over a year ago, she had a starting point in mind.

“I’m going to break the rules a little bit,” she said with a smile from the 21st floor of the Penn Station-adjacent Puma Showroom in New York City last month. 

Surrounding her was the result of her first year’s work with Puma — the High Court Collection, “coached by June Ambrose,” as the company frames it.

“The brand itself is such an iconic brand, growing up in the Bronx and always seeing how it was infused in the hip-hop culture,” said Ambrose. “There’s so much nostalgia to be able to come full circle and be working with them.”

Featuring an assortment of jackets, tops, pants, sports bras, sneakers and slides, it’s also the company’s first series of footwear and apparel designed specifically for women’s basketball. The naming highlights the hardwood, along with the landmark Title IX cases overseen by the Supreme Court that have advanced equality in women’s sports.

“[I was inspired by] thinking about the women that we were celebrating,” she said. “And how amazingly fearless and iconic [that] female basketball players are. And the fact that they’re not just ballplayers — they’re wives, they’re sisters, they’re daughters, they’re friends — they’re women, and taking them off the court was really part of the process, too.”

Ambrose’s High Court Collection drew inspiration and insights from a quartet of WNBA stars signed to the brand in recent years. When the company relaunched its basketball category for the first time in nearly two decades in 2018, signing both the No. 1 and No. 2 picks in the NBA draft, several media outlets wrongly phrased the summer splash as also being Puma’s first basketball player signings of the new millennium.

As WNBA star Skylar Diggins-Smith pointed out, Puma had already begun its commitment to the women’s side of the sport, signing her nearly a year earlier in August 2017.

The debut collection’s statement tearaway pants are dubbed the “Diggins” pants.

“[June] is helping to redefine the women’s hoops category for Puma,” said Diggins-Smith. “Which is inspiring for me personally to see a collection that not only focuses on female athletes, but merges performance with fashion.” 

That blend — Puma executives call it “a hybrid approach to design” — has been a focus of the brand as it began to create basketball products for the decade ahead. The basketball shoes commonly sit in a casual-meets-performance lane, and the NBA players who’ve been signed are at times just as celebrated for their League Fits-ready tunnel entries as their game-to-game stat lines.

After the Phoenix Mercury guard led the way in signing on, Puma added two of the top picks from the 2019 WNBA draft in Las Vegas Aces point guard Jackie Young and Seattle Storm forward Katie Lou Samuelson. Ahead of the league’s 25th-anniversary season, Puma landed one of Nike’s longtime key headliners, Breanna Stewart of the Storm, the then-reigning Finals MVP.

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With those four in mind, Ambrose looked to keep that emphasis on versatility while developing Puma Basketball’s first collection for women.

A mix of orange and red — which Ambrose describes as “ferocious” colors — can be seen throughout more than a dozen apparel items. The camouflage pattern layered over the Madison coat and the Maverick Court Rider hoops shoe was created based on patterns found when zooming in on the fur of puma cats.

While the Maverick Court Rider is a performance model that could see the WNBA floor next summer, the other two footwear options are classic silhouettes — a khaki remix of the brand’s staple suede shoe and a white and black execution of its 1980s high-top Ralph Sampson signature shoe.

“I happen to be a fan of the game, but I don’t play the game,” said Ambrose. “But I still want to celebrate how amazing it is to be part of a starting lineup of incredible women … I wanted to change the dialogue and the narrative just slightly so that it will attract a consumer that wants to be independently fearless.”

After designing a collection that can be worn “from the court to courtside,” Ambrose debuted High Court items last month at a Boston Celtics home game against the Chicago Bulls. Seated alongside her 17-year-old daughter Summer, Ambrose notes that she looked to involve her in the design process for feedback and validation.

Designer June Ambrose (left) attends a game between the Chicago Bulls and Boston Celtics on Nov. 1 at the TD Garden.

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“Seeing how people were responding to what we were wearing while we were sitting there, coming over and saying, ‘Oh, those are fresh!’ … was superfun,” she said. “I didn’t even have to say anything, but the look kind of spoke for itself and it’s exactly what I want.”

Ambrose first burst onto the scene in the late 1990s as a costume designer for music videos. In 1997, Missy Elliott donned a puffy oversized black ensemble that’s commonly referred to as “the trash bag suit,” which later led to Elliott’s own series of apparel collaborations.

“I had the audacity to do so much,” Ambrose said proudly. “I did things without asking for permission.”

There were also the metallic red and yellow suits worn by Puff Daddy and Mase in the “Mo Money Mo Problems” video, which became an MTV staple at the time and currently sits at 88 million views on YouTube. The flashy textures on a traditional denim jacket silhouette were an instant classic. Dolce & Gabbana launched metallic materials the next year.

“I would take sportswear, athletics, leisure, and silhouettes and elevate them with very expensive luxury fabrics,” she said. “I was bridging high fashion with urban music culture.”

That approach led to Ambrose becoming a groundbreaking costume designer for more than 200 music videos over the years. She’s also styled and shaped Jay-Z’s look, which led to her initial involvement with Puma executives after the rapper was named creative director of Puma men’s basketball in 2018.

During what was supposed to be an initial introductory meeting with Adam Petrick, Puma’s global director of brand and marketing, he and Ambrose landed on the opportunity ahead of them.

“He says, ‘Well, we’re really thinking about women’s basketball, would you be interested?’ ” Ambrose recalled. “And I immediately lit up.”

In addition to the High Court Collection, Ambrose is leading the way for Puma women’s basketball into 2022. When Stewart was signed to the brand last spring, the announcement came in tandem with the reveal that she would be receiving a signature shoe. Ambrose likes to point out that the Puma Clyde, created for former New York Knicks star Walt “Clyde” Frazier in 1973, was one of the industry’s first signature basketball sneakers.

Stewart will become just the 10th woman to receive her own shoe in the WNBA’s 25-year history.

Breanna Stewart of the Seattle Storm before a game against the Phoenix Mercury during the WNBA playoffs on Sept. 26 at Angel of the Winds Arena in Everett, Washington.

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“The genuine commitment Puma has shown to collaborate with and activate around women is really exciting,” said Stewart. “I look forward to working closely with Puma and June on projects that set the standards for the next generation of female athletes.”

For now, dubbed the “Stewie 1,” and teased again earlier this fall when Stewart donned a hoodie that simply declared “OVERDUE,” the expectation is that she’ll debut her signature sneaker during the upcoming WNBA season.

“It’s been really fun going back and forth, getting what she loves about color and what she looks for,” said Ambrose. “And really working to define her as a brand, and not just an athlete, has been really fun.”

As the duo and the larger Puma team continues to finalize designs, details and executions, the involvement and insights from both Stewart and Ambrose have helped to inform the entire ecosystem of how the shoe will eventually launch.

“It takes me sitting with her, getting to know her,” said Ambrose. “I’ve dressed her off the court too … working with her in every aspect I think is important. From a creative directive perspective, I’m not just designing the product, but I’m also working with them on selling it and how we market it, seeing it all the way through from the inception, all the way to the retailer.”

With the High Court Collection launching now, a signature shoe ahead and the foundation of Puma’s women’s basketball category being set, Ambrose feels the next steps include highlighting impactful moments in women’s sports history through a potential panel series and future themed collections.

The groundwork from her starting points in costume design and styling has continued to help extend that bridge years later.

“Being able to have created that narrative to get high fashion’s attention and seeing it all come to life, made me feel like we were doing something that was going to be long-lasting,” she said. “The seeds that we planted, I think we’re reaping the fruits and benefits of it now.”

Nick DePaula is a footwear industry and lifestyle writer at The Undefeated. The Sacramento native has been based in Portland, OR, for the last decade, a main hub of sneaker company HQs. He’ll often argue that ’How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days’ is actually an underrated movie — largely because it’s the only time his Sacramento Kings have made the NBA Finals.

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Curtiss Cook on creating a new Black role in ‘West Side Story’

The actor recounts his story from dancing in Dayton, Ohio, to appearing in Steven Spielberg’s remake of the classic musical

Among the many updates director Steven Spielberg and screenwriter Tony Kushner made to the new West Side Story, which opened Dec. 10, is the addition of a brand new character, Abe, played by actor Curtiss Cook. Abe is the first Black character featured in the story of young lovers caught between battling teen gangs and ethnic divides in 1950s New York. 

When he was first told that Abe would be Black, Cook, 41, thought Spielberg and his team were turning one of the musical’s Latino characters into an African American. Learning that he would be playing a new character made him even more enthusiastic about making the role his own. 

In addition to West Side Story, Cook has appeared in the NBC science fiction series Manifest, FX’s Mayans M.C., Netflix shows House of Cards and Narcos, and Showtime’s The Chi, produced by Lena Waithe and Common. 

Cook spoke with The Undefeated about his journey as an actor, Black representation in television and fine-tuning his passion for acting.

This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.


As a kid growing up in Dayton, what made you enroll in classes at the Dayton Contemporary Dance Company?

I was in this organization called the Muse Machine in Dayton, Ohio. This organization brought concerts to the students. They brought orchestras, bands, art, sculpting and painting. They would also bring dance companies through. DCDC was one of the companies that [was] brought in, as well as the Dayton Ballet. They would perform for us and then after that, they would have ‘talk back’ to the children afterwards. My little self was enthralled by these dancers. Not only because they were amazing athletes, but they were very beautiful. I was thinking I was smooth and suave talking to these young ladies who were a good three or four years older than me. So, you know, I’m like in the eighth grade thinking I’m somebody and they’re like, ‘Oh, boy get out of here, be quiet.’

I start talking to this one dancer, Debbie Blunden, the daughter of Jeraldyne Blunden, who was the founder of DCDC. And I was like, ‘Yeah, you know, I would love to dance. I could do what y’all do.’ She’s like, ‘Oh, you can? Listen, if you come to our studio, I’ll give lessons for free.’ I’m like, ‘OK, yeah, I’ll come through there and I’ll do my thing.’ And she’s like, ‘Yeah, right. Whatever.’ She expected never to see me again. I’m good on a challenge, so I came through. I fell in love with it. I fell in love with the athleticism of it all. It was hard and I wanted to figure out if I could do it. I mean, I would never really call myself a dancer. My wife is a dancer. But I can hold my own. I was able to stay with them. I was in the second company with DCDC. I also sang and acted. So, that’s what really got me involved. It was me being a knucklehead and thinking I knew everything, but ultimately learning more about myself than I could even imagine.

How did you know that performing was for you?

I would do community theater things and stuff in high school. I thought I was going to be a singer at one point. I used to be in a cover band in high school. I was a clown. I was loud. But as far as doing this as a profession, there was nobody in my family who did that. And there was nobody in my immediate vicinity who I knew [that] was an actor or dancer or somebody who did it and that was their only job.

It wasn’t until my senior year in high school, the founder of the Muse Machine asked me what did I want to do after high school. I told her I was going to go to the Navy. Then after I get out of the Navy, I’m going to come back to Dayton and work at Montgomery County Engineers like my dad. I’m going to make a good $30,000 a year and I’m going to be living good. She’s like, ‘No, darling, you have too much talent for that.’ She introduced me to the principal of Mountview Theatre School in London, England, and I auditioned for him. That’s where I got my scholarship, and I ended up going to London for drama.

In addition to West Side Story, Curtiss Cook has appeared in the NBC science fiction series Manifest, FX’s Mayans M.C., Netflix shows House of Cards and Narcos, and Showtime’s The Chi.

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Out there is when I started to realize there are people making a living doing this, like a real living. So once again, I’m always good for a challenge and trying to figure out how to do it and do it at my best. The school was a godsend. Some of my teachers were Judi Dench, Michael Caine and Vanessa Redgrave. At the time, I didn’t know who they were. I was just a young Black boy from Dayton. These old English people coming and talking to me every day and I didn’t even know what they were talking about. I did not realize how much wealth and knowledge that was being seeped into me like a sponge. I was just soaking it all in.

How did you make the transition to television?

By the time I left school, I knew that I was coming to Broadway. And musical theater was my first love. It took me a while to get on Broadway. I did a lot of regional plays. I didn’t think I would ever do television or film. Not because I didn’t want to, but I was just kind of one of those actors that felt like it was beneath me. Like, I’ll stay on the stage. I was doing my second Broadway play and I kind of rolled on to some television show. I only had one line on it, but I was still doing this Broadway show. I was making decent money. This is in the early ‘90s. [In the TV show] I was a police officer. I don’t even think I had a name. I got my check for that one day and it surpassed my Broadway salary for that one week. So, I was like, ‘OK, I need to learn how to do more television and film because if you’re paying me this for this one day and these one-lines, what could it possibly be if I’m doing more?’

You were a single father of three while trying to book gigs on Broadway. What motivated you to go after what you wanted in your acting career? 

Honestly, I don’t know if I can answer that. That might have to be a question for my children and I have five now. I would like to think my example to them is that there are going to be hard, rough times. Curtiss, Isis and Kimani, it was just us for a long time. They are my oldest children. Their mother decided to part ways with us and so it was just me as a single dad with the three of them for a while. During that time, all I ever did was act. In my full adult life, I’ve only had one 9-to-5 job and that was before Curtiss was born because I was scared. I didn’t have health benefits. I needed to find something because we’re about to have a baby. It did what it needed to do. We had insurance and she was able to get prenatal.

But while I was in that 9-to-5 job, I was dying on the inside. I didn’t know why I was so evil and so irritable. I was so depressed all that time. It wasn’t until I was like, I’m just going to go on this small audition for this show and just see how I feel because I hadn’t done it in a while. Then I did this audition and just the audition itself, I just felt alive. It was like a plant that was dying and you just added water and fertilizer to it. That’s how I felt on the inside. I knew I couldn’t do my 9-to-5 anymore.

Your oldest son, Curtiss Jr., is also an actor. What have you taught your children about pursuing their dreams?

If there’s anything I would hope that they get from my experience is that you are enough and who and what you feel is important to you, you have a right to do it. You have an obligation, almost, to do it. Because if you don’t, you’re deeming something inside of you and it’s been given to you by God and the universe. If you neglect that, then something else will be neglected inside of you, you can and will get sick. I’ve made a lot of mistakes. I’ve done a lot of stupid things. But you know there are no losses, there are only lessons. Let’s do better the next time.

With your role as Douda in The Chi, you get to show the good, the bad and the ugly of the Black experience in America. Why is it important for different Black stories to be on the big screen?

Because they exist. Black people in general have built this country, and for the longest time haven’t been represented and haven’t been shown in our complexities. We’ve only been stereotyped and dumbed down to a way to where we are stereotypes of a stereotype sometimes. So, the fact that you have someone like Lena Waithe and Showtime, you know what Lena has done with the show has been amazing. But we know that there have been many Lenas and folks like that who have had great ideas, but you haven’t had an organization strong enough or competent enough or brave enough to allow that to show in its fullness. Not to say we need these large organizations to do that, because we’ve done it on our own a lot of times. But to have someone like Showtime come in and believe in what we do and how we do it and give us a platform, it’s a blessing.

When we were kids, we used to watch game shows a lot growing up. Whenever there was a Black person on the game show, we didn’t know them, but we didn’t care. We would just start rooting for them. When you see yourself, you get excited. That’s why I feel like it is happening now with Broadway. I mean, they’ve always been there, but the fact that we are having an opportunity now to see more, and different sides of those things, is so important. With a show like The Chi, it makes me proud to be a part of something like that. So we’re, you know, at one point in time really looking high and low for these Broadway gigs and now you have directors like Steven Spielberg making roles just for you.

How does it feel to know that one of the biggest directors of all time created Abe’s character for West Side Story?

Even when I hear it it’s like, ‘Wow,’ I mean, it’s like it’s not real. Then you go and you do the work, you still feel some way inside and it’s like, is this really happening? Am I really doing this? Musical theater has always been my first love. So, of course I knew what West Side Story was. Of course I realized there’s no Black people in it. People from Puerto Rico, they matter, too. So, I wanted to be a part of it, but I did not want to take their roles.

Although Abe may not be the central character of this piece, because it’s not about Abe, it’s the fact that I am there. We are there. There will be another little Black boy looking at the screen when everyone goes and sees it and all the hoopla, and he’ll see himself. It’s still going to be there in five, six years, 10 years from now my grandchildren can see it. They are going to look at the screen and wonder, ‘What’s this?’ Then all of a sudden, this dude is going to walk in and they’re going to be like, ‘Wow, hold on. He looks like me.’

I’m not trying to get emotional because it’s close to that. It’s amazing. It’s overwhelmingly amazing. I’m grateful for that opportunity. It allows me to know once again that betting on yourself counts, and betting on yourself is important. Because if I would have said to my teacher back in high school, ‘Thank you very much for trying to get me into this school but I’m going to go to the Navy and I’m going to come back and work as an engineer,’ none of this could have happened. I had to say yes to myself. To the dance woman, I had to say yes. Even with the television shows, I had to keep saying yes to myself. And if you don’t say yes to yourself, the no’s can be crippling, because you haven’t said yes.

Alexis Davis is a senior multimedia journal journalism student from Prince George’s County, Md. She is a sports and culture contributor for The A&T Register, the campus newspaper at North Carolina A&T in Greensboro.

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